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SOMEONE NEEDS TO POST THIS HERE..STOP ALL OF THE STUPID DRAMA COMING OUT OF 2OD (CREDIT -fortyninepointfivebananas.tumblr.com):
The rumors coming out about the fan meeting are pretty awful and from what I can tell on tumblr and 2OneDay it seems that the rumors of the members being rude or arrogant, or dragging Jays name through the mud, are making many fans of 2pm shocked and upset. I want to try to clear these up, just from one fans point of view
Im Korean-American and have lived and gone to school in both the U.S. and Korea. I live in the U.S. at the moment, but my home is Korea, because thats where my entire family lives. I downloaded the audio file of the 2pm-JYP-fan conference thats been going around to hear it for myself, because I was very skeptical of most of the fan accounts that have been floating out. Im fluent in both languages and so I hope you will trust me when I try to clear up some of the (mis)translations that have been floating about
. The 2pm boys are very respectful throughout the whole fan meeting, as far as I can tell. On the contrary, I think the fans are being unnecessarily rude. The fans spent the first 10 minutes of the meeting arguing that they should have the right to film the meeting, even though the JYP rep told them several times that although he would allow audio recording, he could not allow video footage out of fear that it could later be manipulated by other people to put the 2pm boys in a bad light. On hearing this (perfectly reasonable) request, the fans burst into laughter and made many snide and condescending comments (caught on tape) about how unbelievable the JYP reps requests were. I could hardly believe how rude some of their words were. The 2pm boys stayed silent during this exchange, but the JYP rep did not raise his voice, and merely repeated his requests until the fans agreed. As the file went on, some rude fans interrupted the boys several times as they were replying to the fans questions.
Junho never said I honestly hated Jaebeom hyung, as has been alleged. His words should not be taken out of context. What he did say was, We were so excited for him to come back, and we worked hard, here in Korea, and so did Jaebeom hyung in the States. We tried to give hints to our fans that he would come back, and we worked hard to make a path so he could return. But when we heard what happened
we, too
for just one moment
we hated Jaebeom-hyung. He said we, not I (저희들 is plural). The way he worded it was to explain that his momentary hatred of Jaebeom was because he was so deeply disappointed that after all of their (mutual) work, Jaebeom wouldnt be able to return
he did not hate Jaebeom for what he had done (whatever it is), but because what he had done would prevent him from returning. All 6 boys had been waiting for so long until he could return and at the moment their hopes came crashing down they couldnt help but hate him a little bit.
When Junho said, We worked so hard to make a path so Jaebeom hyung could return the fans laughed sarcastically and said, Who made that path? Who? And he corrected himself to say, We all worked, both our precious fans who loved Jaebeom and us members, too, we all worked together to bring him back, didnt we? (Just as a personal note
I felt really sorry for Junho here. Ultimately the 2pm boys worked their incredible butts off in order to build up goodwill in the public eye after Jaebeom left, and as he said later, they never stopped thinking about Jaebeom throughout all of their performances, variety shows, etc. And for him to be attacked by the fans for saying that was so disrespectful, I think.)
When Chansung said that they still love Jaebeom hyung, and that in the future if they miss him they think it will be okay to honestly say that they miss him, the fans laughed at him.
One of the loudest fans was a mother (she said multiple times that she had a son around the age of the 2pm boys)[what?!!! arent ajummas a bit too old to be showing up to these kinds of things?]and she attacked the boys for throwing Jaebeom away like human trash. She said that no matter what your family members do, you have to hold them close and not throw them away. And she said for betraying Jaebeom (she said its as if they killed him, and left him to be the trash of the nation), the fans would throw away 2pm. [Im sorry, but this kind of fan attack is just ridiculous, un-john teshing-believable.] The 2pm boys were extremely respectful in response, and asked her politely when she was finished if she would like to add a question for them to reply to. She said a few more words but again, there was no actual question. But anyway, they responded and said, We are so sorry to have hurt you. We understand your feelings because we are hurting, too. We honestly think that silence is only way we can protect Jaebeom, and we are telling this to you from our hearts. They went on to say that it was some issue that, out of their love for Jaebeom, they could not speak of to the fans, and that they want to protect Jaebeom forever. They said that even after they are married and have families, they will always think of themselvesall seven of themas a part of 2pm, and this is why they must protect him until they die (the until we die part sounds less dramatic in Korean, trust meits a more common expression in Korean than English). They repeated that they had to do this because they loved him, and they apologized several times.
Wooyoung said, Please understand this truly, we have not thrown away Jaebeom hyung in our hearts. Please, lets make a promise between us. Not between us 6, but between our 7 members and all of you who are here today. No matter what anyone says, we promise that we are protecting him until the end. In response, some fans laughed and ssunshineed, saying 쳇 on the audio file [in Korean, 쳇 a common way to say that you dont believe the other persons words. Its very condescending and rude, unless said in a joking way among friends.. which this is clearly not].
There was a question about whether the 2pm boys had heard the news from Jaebeoms mouth directly, or only through the company. Junsu responded and said that they had first heard the news from their CEO, but afterwards they spoke on the phone with Jaebeom and the seven of them talked it over together, directly.
When the JYP rep was explaining why they wrote that Jaebeom could not return because of a big personal problem (instead of covering it up with a less harmful answer), and he said that he needed to protect the 6 remaining members so that they would not be seen as betrayers/traitors to Jaebeom, many fans interrupted him to say, But we already think that they are traitors. [As a personal note, it breaks my heart to think that the boys had to sit there and hear that from their fans without even being able to defend themselves.] The rep went on to finish his answer and did not respond to those accusations.
There are rumors going around that the 2pm boys said they could never forgive Jaebeom. This is patently false. Junho explicitly says, We have forgiven Jaebeom. But
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Please note: this is not a complete translation. These are parts that I personally picked out because I think they help refute some of the awful rumors going around. Also, the file gets grainy and difficult to understand at some points.
And even more than that, I have a huge assignment due next week so I dont have time to listen to the whole thing right now. This comprises about the FIRST NINETY MINUTES of the audio file
I will listen to more and add more when I get the chance, but I wanted to do this because I think this is really important, on behalf of 2pm fans who dont understand Korean and cant read Korean. I hope some of you find it useful. Feel free to re-blog.
P.S. As a quick update, and just to clarify: some of the fan accounts that are going around *are* true. From the first 90 minutes I listened to, the following is true:
All 6 members acknowledged that they agreed to the fact that Jaebeom should not return as a part of 2pm.
One of them (sorry, I cant identify the voice) did say that what Jaebeom had done is bad enough that we cant let it come from our lips and go to our fans and asked for understanding and forgiveness that they cannot say any more than that.
Ive been following the rumors on 2OD and I believe these are the only ones I can say I heard on the file, for sure. Please keep i mind that 1) Its only the first 90 minutes of the 4-hour file; 2) I cant see their body language, obviously, so theres nothing I can say about that; and 3) some parts of the file are staticky and difficult to understand, but Ive done my best.
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