ความคิดเห็นที่ 137
Apologies for not being able to type in Thai. I think many people do not understand the message but think they do and now this topic is not what it should be. This is a webboard for people who like making their houses look nice and this is the purpose of it. It is therefore not relevant to those who think that making houses look nice is not worth it.
สวย - เชย อยู่ที่เรา I agree. that's why I can say that in respect of houses of many Thais.
คุณ ผม คนข้างบนอีกร้อยกว่าความเห็นไม่มีทางเห็น "สวย" หรือ "เชย" เหมือนกัน That's true same as opinions on movie, clothes but at least we are here in a free society so that people can express their views and others who disgree can express their views too. What you are trying to do is basically making a conclusion that you cant use your view to make any judgement.
This is what human being has been doing since the start of civilisation.
When men lived in cave, a man started saying to his society that there should build a house. When men fighted without rules, a wise man said that a law is needed to run society.
ไม่แปลกอะไรที่คุณจะว่าคนอื่นว่า "เชย" และไม่แปลกอะไรถ้าหากจะมีคนบอกว่ารสนิยมของคุณ "แย่" True and I would not mind that and I do not expect a person to be minded hearing other views in the webs. และก็ไม่แปลกอะไรที่จะมีคนไม่ชอบการแต่งที่ Four Season you are right so it is not strange for so many people to have the same opinion like me. To you, I cant express my view but others can?? You can??
แล้วใครผิด... ใครถูก??? ถ้ามีคนบอกว่ารูปวาดของแวนโก๊ะห์ไม่สวย Noone. It is a free society and I dont expect everyone to agree with me but they can express their views to the topic as opposed to saying things which do not make any sense. เค้าผิดหรือไม่ ??? ถ้าจะมีคนบอกว่าบ้านเค้าไม่เชย คุณจะว่าบ้านเค้าเชยได้อย่างไร??? เค้าผิดหรือไม่? ถ้ามีคนบอกว่า ไอ้ที่คุณแนะนำมาครึ่งค่อนกระทู้ ใช้ไม่ได้กับบ้านเค้า แล้วเค้าว่ามัน เห่ย... ใครผิด เค้าผิดหรือไม่??? No they are not as they are not saying that you cant express your view.
ไม่เลยครับ... สวย ไม่สวย อยู่ที่ คนๆ นั้นครับ... ปัจเจกมากๆ...
Perhaps you should read some history book which illustrates the greek ancient society. Everything is up to the person. Right or wrong, beauty or ugliness. This leads to the collapse of the society.
ดังนั้น... อย่ายัดเยียด และ ตัดสิน "สวย" ของคนอื่นเลยครับ Hold on man, you are telling me not to think and not to express my view. Why dont you tell yourself not to put your idea that one should not make comments on anything. You are confused!
If a film is launched e.g. Alexander. Lots of audiences form various views upon the work of the producer. Given your logic, no one should express their views. The film is perfect in the mind of the producer. Good or bad film is also subjective. It is not up to anyone to say what they think about the film.
If a music album is launched, you will stop people making their comments as the quality of music and the singer is up to the person.
When a man makes comments on things, we do believe that we are in an open society and he must be encouraged to make comments without fear of rejection. Different comments from different people make the society running better and more satisfactory.
To you, it is better living in Afganistan when Taleban was in control. All books and commentary were burnt. No man should be allowed to express their views to the public.
เรื่องเสื้อผ้า รถยนต์ ผมเห็นด้วยครับ บ้านก็เช่นเดียวกัน
ในเมื่อมันไม่ได้มีมิติของ ประโยชน์การใช้งาน และมิติของความสวยงามแค่นั้น...Did I say anything which make you think that beauty is better than easy to use?? When a man focuses on studying English is to be better in Thailand, does he mean that studying Thai is not crucial?
ในเมื่อมันเป็นสิ่งที่มีหลายมิติ แล้วทำไมถึงเอามิติหนึ่งมิติใดไปกดอีกมิตินึงด้วยเล่า Did I say anything that lead you to the conclusion?
ทำไมต้องสวยแล้วใช้งานยาก หรือทำไมต้องใช้งานง่ายแล้วเห่ย ใช่มั้ยครับ??True, I am here with supports of many people who opend their mind and nothing was said to be concluded that beauty makes life more difficult should be accepted.
Again, you are lost. This is the webboard where people are interested and keen to make their homes nicer and more appealing. If this is not your interest, why bother making comments none of which makes any sense??
This webboard is like you coming to watches fair and start asking people in the fair why we need a nice watch given that the one across the street is perfecting working for THB 99!!
I do hope you understand this.
โลกทำไมต้องตึง... ทำไมต้อง... ทำไมต้อง... และทำไมต้อง???
การอยู่อาศัย... ทำไมต้อง อย่างนั้น ต้องอย่างนี้ และต้องอย่างนี้ นอกนั้น เห่ย???
if you wanted to form the opinion like no 116, there cant be no musical schools, art schools, dances school in the world.
ไม่ใช่เลยครับ... ความเห็นของผมยิ่งต้องมี art school ...
เพราะมันมีความหลากหลายไงครับ ถึงต้องมีโรงเรียนเฉพาะสำหรับศึกษาความหลากหลายเหล่านี้ Oh man, you are lost. How could you form a musical school if a teacher tells a student that there are 7 notes and then a student start arguing that we should play only 3 notes to make nice music and this is his opinion that teacher should not be making judgement on.
I never suggested that my examples are the only way of decorating houses. Many people are interested to know my styles so I share.
I have seen and been impressed by houses which are not my type at all but you are basically making people to belive that even a slum there is a beauty according to some people!!
In all scienes there are accepted standard of practice and rules. If you just let anyone think in a way they should. There is no need to formalise cirriculam for students. They should all be doing their study at home. We should all speak Thai and English in the way we want and no one is allowed to say that there is a room to be improved!
For argument sake, film students. If one makes comments about Spider man, one would make it according to his expectations and experience. If his classmates or teachers disagree they should say it to the man. To you and according to your view, the teacher should let him think what he thinks as beauty is subjective and nobody can tell on behalf of others that what a good movie is like. Again you want to see the mankind civilisation declining. Everything is up to the person making decision.
In an MBA school, there are things that students have to follow so that they understand business operation. To you if a student thinks I would not do that but forms his view, the teacher should not be allowed to express his view upon the idea of the student??
เพราะถ้ามีแค่ "ต้อง" อย่างนั้น "ต้อง" อย่างนี้.... มีแค่ art school เดียวในโลกก็พอครับ สอนกันเป็นวิทยาศาสตร์ไปเลย
เพราะ art ... มีหลายมิติ หลายมุมมอง... music มีหลายสไตล์ จะไทยเดิม หรือคลาสสิก จะ นิวเอจ หรือเคาะกระป๋องเวลาเมา ก็เป็น music ทั้งนั้น มีความหลากหลาย ถึงต้องมีโรงเรียนพวกนี้ครับ ถ้าไม่มีความหลากหลายสิ ถ้าต้องมีไบเบิ้ลว่าไอ้นั่นต้องอย่างนี้ ไอ้นี่ต้องอย่างนั้นสิครับ ถึงไม่ต้องมีโรงเรียนพวกนี้
If you send a person to a Thai dancing school and she said I will dress in black kimono to do Thai dancing, to you should should be able to do that and other people should not make any comments.
If another Thai student attending a clssical music school and said that his newly invented music is best. Do you think teachers should express their view if they disagree.
Even in sports where points are given (gymnastic), the athelete may say my performance is best (according to my standard) but markers are still required to make judgement upon their view.
เพราะมีความหลากหลาย มีรสนิยม และความแปลเปลี่ยน.. มันเป็น dynamic มันถึงต้องมีโรงเรียนพวกนี้ ไม่งั้น ศาสตร์ (จริงๆ คือศิลป์) พวกนี้มันคงเป็น ศาสตร์ ที่ตายไปแล้วล่ะครับ
I really dont mind when people have different views from mine but not when you saying that we should not express our view. If you accept varieties in the society, you must encourage people to express their views not to keep them.
The first man thinking about a plan must have told people that the transportation in the society is not good enough.
The first man inventing characters must have told people that communication is better in other societies
The first man cooking meat must have told his society that eating raw food is not healthly.
Thank you for all supports from others. I am disappointed to see that some people are so narrow minded.
If I start a new topic that most Thai people are not good at English. This is so true but there will be people making stupid comments like saying that we were not colonised and we should be proud. This is so not relevant.
I have read so many comments trying to attack me as opposed to making different views from mine. It is rather disappointing.
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