ความคิดเห็นที่ 1 You are correct. Three-year residency applies to your case and spouse of British citizen. Five-year residency applies to other visa category. Always check immigration rules. http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/britishcitizenship/eligibility/naturalisation/spouseorcivilpartnerofcitizen/ Residential requirements In order to demonstrate the residential requirements for naturalisation you need to:    * have been resident in the United Kingdom for at least three years (this is known as the residential qualifying period); and    * have been present in the United Kingdom three years before the date of your application; and    * have not spent more than 270 days outside the United Kingdom during the three-year period; and    * have not spend more than 90 days outside the United Kingdom in the last 12 months of the three-year period; and    * have not been in breach of the immigration rules at any stage during the three-year period. Start of the residential qualifying period The residential qualifying period will be worked out from the day we receive your application. Most unsuccessful applications fail because the applicant was not present in the United Kingdom at the beginning of the residential qualifying period. You must make sure you meet this requirement before you make your application. For example, if we received your application on 25 November 2005, you would have to show that you were in the United Kingdom on 26 November 2002. You cannot count time you have spent in the United Kingdom while exempt from immigration control as part of the residential qualifying period. If you are in the United Kingdom as a diplomat or as a member of visiting armed forces or if you are in any place of detention, you would be considered exempt from immigration control. This time would be treated as absence from the United Kingdom. Immigration time restrictions You must be free from immigration time restrictions on the day you make your application. ปลายปี09จะต้องขอ Indefinite Leave to remain visa แล้ว From above statement regarding "Immigration time restriction", it means that you can apply for a Naturalisation the same day you receive your ILR, if you wish to do so. Best wishes. แก้ไขเมื่อ 08 มี.ค. 52 20:45:40 จากคุณ : genf - [ 8 มี.ค. 52 20:08:15 ]

ความคิดเห็นที่ 2 ขอบคุณคุณgenf กับข้อมูลนะคะ คิดว่าคงเป็นประโยชน์ให้กับคนที่กําลังหาข้อมูลนี้ด้วยค่ะ ขอบคุณอีกครั้งจากใจค่ะ ^__^ จากคุณ : ชะนีอิงแลนด์ - [ 8 มี.ค. 52 20:45:12 ]

ความคิดเห็นที่ 3 เอ่อ คุณgenf ขอถามอีกนิดนึงได้มั้ยคะ พอดี วีซ่าของเราเป็น Unmarried Partnership visa น่ะค่ะ ไม่ใช่ Civil Partner Visa ค่ะ เถียงกันกับแฟนอีกแล้วค่ะ เขาบอกว่ามันต่างกันค่ะ เพราะเห็นโฮมออฟฟิศแค่ระบุไว้ว่า คนที่แต่งงานกับบุคคลที่เป็น Civil Partner Visa เท่านั้น ไม่ทราบว่าวีซ่าชนิดนี้ของเรายังใช่ 3 ปีก็ขอได้แน่นอนอยู่ใช่มั้ยคะ หรือคงต้องรอถึง5 ปีค่ะ ? รบกวนคุณ genf อีกครั้งนะคะ จากคุณ : ชะนีอิงแลนด์ - [ 8 มี.ค. 52 22:47:58 ]

ความคิดเห็นที่ 4 ขอถามด้วยคนนะค่ะ http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/britishcitizenship/eligibility/naturalisation/immigrationtimerestrictions/ อ่านเจอตรงนี้ You must be free from immigration time restrictions on the day you make your application for naturalisation as a British citizen. Unless you are married to a British citizen you should also have been free from immigration time restrictions for at least 12 months before you make your application หมายความว่า ต้องรอให้ถือวีซ่าถาวรครบ 12 เดือนก่อนเหรอค่ะ ถึงจะสมัครได้ ขอบคุณค่ะ จากคุณ : กะเทยไทยในอังกฤษ - [ 8 มี.ค. 52 23:04:17 A:66.90.126.123 X: TicketID:095367 ]

ความคิดเห็นที่ 5 วีซ่าของเราเป็น Unmarried Partner visa น่ะค่ะ ไม่ใช่ Civil Partner Visa ค่ะ Now I see, I thought you were talking about "Civil Partnership". That is another story then. So, in that case your partner was correct. Five-year residency applies to you. http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/britishcitizenship/eligibility/naturalisation/standardrequirements/ Start of the residential qualifying period The residential qualifying period will be worked out from the day we receive your application. Most unsuccessful applications fail because the applicant was not present in the United Kingdom at the beginning of the residential qualifying period. You must make sure you meet this requirement before you make your application. For example, if we received your application on 25 November 2005, you would have to show that you were in the United Kingdom on 26 November 2000. You cannot count time you have spent in the United Kingdom while exempt from immigration control as part of the residential qualifying period. If you are in the United Kingdom as a diplomat or as a member of visiting armed forces or if you are in any place of detention, you would be considered exempt from immigration control. This time would be treated as absence from the United Kingdom. Immigration time restrictions You must be free from immigration time restrictions when you make your naturalisation application. Unless you are married to or the civil partner of a British citizen, you should have been free from immigration time restrictions during the last 12 months of the residential qualifying period. If you are free from immigration time restrictions then there is usually a stamp or sticker in your passport saying that you have indefinite leave to enter or remain or no time limit on your stay. But you may have a letter from the Home Office saying that you are free from immigration conditions. See The documents we require for naturalisation applications for details of how to prove you are free from immigration time restrictions. There is discretion to allow applications from people who do not meet this requirement. For details of how we apply discretion, you should read the page on discretion to regard immigration time restrictions during the last 12 months. Answer to #4; Yes, you have to have the ILR for 12 months or more before you can be qualified for Naturalisation (for majority of people), unless you are qualified under "Naturalisation At Discretion under section 6". http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/policyandlaw/nationalityinstructions/nichapter18/chapter18?view=Binary จากคุณ : genf - [ 9 มี.ค. 52 00:16:46 ]

ความคิดเห็นที่ 6 รับทราบกระจ่างชัดแจ๋วแว้ววค่ะ ขอบคุณอีกครั้งคร้า จากคุณ : ชะนีอิงแลนด์ - [ 9 มี.ค. 52 18:25:41 ]

ความคิดเห็นที่ 7 P'Genf, just passing by to say hi krab, if you're still around. I've got the same question as the person above. I've got residence permit since May 2005, but been back to work in BKK until Aug 2008. During that period I still travelled back and forth between BKK and London. From Aug 2008 onwards, I didn't leave the country and so, to apply for naturalisation, would it mean that the start of my qualifying period is Aug 2008 (Since I've been out of the country for more than 450 days in the past 5 years and I've been out of the country for more than 90 days for the past year alone) Catch up with you soon krab จากคุณ : Cris (Millbank) - [ 15 มี.ค. 52 02:23:16 ]

ความคิดเห็นที่ 8 Hi Chris; Good to see you again. Hope you're doing well back in the UK. Let me get this straight. May 2005 was when you had the ILR, correct? When did you leave the UK for BKK?  Around September 2006? You came back to the UK before the 2 years ILR absence limit was up, in August 2008. Were you in the UK before May 2005?  Silly question! Of course you were. Recap: *************************************************** Residential requirements To demonstrate the residential requirements for naturalisation you need to:    * have been resident in the United Kingdom for at least five years (this is known as the residential qualifying period); and    * have been present in the United Kingdom five years before the date of your application; and    * have not spent more than 450 days outside the United Kingdom during the five year period; and    * have not spend more than 90 days outside the United Kingdom in the last 12 months of the five-year period; and    * have not been in breach of the immigration rules at any stage during the five-year period. Start of the residential qualifying period The residential qualifying period will be worked out from the day we receive your application. Most unsuccessful applications fail because the applicant was not present in the United Kingdom at the beginning of the residential qualifying period. You must make sure you meet this requirement before you make your application. For example, if we received your application on 25 November 2005, you would have to show that you were in the United Kingdom on 26 November 2000. *************************************************** Supposing you want to apply based on starting of your residential qualifying period in a month, let say, March 2004 (the time when you were still in the UK) for March 2009, then you will have no chance since you were out of the UK for more than 450 days and last year alone was over 90 days. Since you were not in the UK during, let say, September 2006 until August 2008, then not a single day in that period could be used as the beginning of your residential qualifying period. Therefore, it is correct and safe to say that the NEW start of your residential qualifying period is ONE DAY in August 2008, the day you came back to the UK. Hopefully in August 2013 you will be able to meet all residential requirements. Take care and all the best. จากคุณ : genf - [ 15 มี.ค. 52 05:27:01 ]

ความคิดเห็นที่ 9 During those 2 years I came back to UK as well, for a month each time I came back to make sure I didn't overuse my ILR limit krab. However, the safest qualifying period would still be Aug 2008? จากคุณ : Millbank - [ 15 มี.ค. 52 15:20:09 ]

ความคิดเห็นที่ 10 I am afraid that MAY BE the only possible date since more than 600 days were spent outside the UK during those 2 years (2006-2008). You can definitely forget about 2006.   How about 2007? When in 2007/08 were you in the UK before Aug 2008? How many days apart (in total), from the date you left UK (in 2007/8) till Aug 2008? Surely the last time you entered the UK before Aug 2008 till you actually came back in Aug 2008 must  be less than 360 days. You may be able to use ONE day in that period when you were present in the UK as the beginning of residential qualifying period. Calculate the number of absence days and have a think about that. Let me know what you come up with. This may reduce waiting time by 1 year. Best wishes. แก้ไขเมื่อ 17 มี.ค. 52 13:44:55 จากคุณ : genf - [ 15 มี.ค. 52 22:12:47 ]

ความคิดเห็นที่ 11 รบกวนท่านเจ้าของกระทู้ ถามคุณ genf นะคะ จากการอ่านข้อมูลด้านบน เราคิดว่าเราได้คำตอบของตัวเองแล้วจากที่คุณ genf ตอบมา  แต่อยากให้คุณ genf ช่วยยืนยันให้หน่อยว่าเราเข้าใจถูกแล้ว เราเข้าอังกฤษมา 17 May 2007 โดยวีซ่านักเรียน  และตอนนี้เรากำลังต่อวีซ่า เพราะวีซ่าเราหมด 31 Mar 2009  โดยคาดว่าจะได้รับวีซ่ากลับมาประมาณ May/June ( เพราะช่วงนี้รอวีซ่ากันนานมาก)  ซึ่งเป็นเวลา 2 ปีพอดีที่เราอยู่ที่นี่ เมื่อได้วีซ่ากลับมาแล้ว เราจะแต่งงาน  (แฟนเราเป็น British citizen)   [หลังแต่งงานเราจะต้องยื่นเปลี่ยนประเภทวีซ่า  ซึ่งเราไม่รู้เหมือนกันว่ามันจะเขียนว่ายังไง  ถ้าคุณ genf ทราบรบกวนช่วยตอบด้วยนะคะ ] กรณีของเรา ถ้าถึงวันที่ 18 May 2010 ซึ่งเราอยู่ในอังกฤษครบ 3 ปี เราก็ขอ citizen ได้เลยหรือคะ จริงๆ แล้วที่อยากรู้คือ เมื่อไหร่ที่เราจะสามารถใช้สิทธิ์ home student ในการจ่ายค่าเรียนได้น่ะค่ะ  เข้่าไปเช็คที่เวบของมหาวิทยาลัย  เค้าเขียนว่า วีซ่าต้องเขียนว่่า Indefinite leave to remain  จึงจะใช้สิทธิ์ได้   ไม่รู้ว่าหลังแต่งงานจะได้วีซ่าอันนี้หรือเปล่าคะ   หรือต้องรอแต่งงานครบสองปีก่อนถึงจะได้ ขอบคุณมากๆ ค่ะ จากคุณ : epsie - [ 19 มี.ค. 52 10:42:33 ]

ความคิดเห็นที่ 12 กรณีของเรา ถ้าถึงวันที่ 18 May 2010 ซึ่งเราอยู่ในอังกฤษครบ 3 ปี เราก็ขอ citizen ได้เลยหรือคะ No, not exactly. Not as quick as that. You have to be on 2 years probationary period first. Regardless of however long you've been in the UK as a student or any other visa  categories Student visa: 17 May 2007- 31 Mar 2009= 22 months Spouse visa: XX-YY- 2009- XX-YY-2011= 2 years ****ALWAYS total length of residency 3 years and 10 months Apply 28 days before XX-YY-2011--->ILR follow with Naturalisation. จริงๆ แล้วที่อยากรู้คือ เมื่อไหร่ที่เราจะสามารถใช้สิทธิ์ home student ในการจ่ายค่าเรียนได้น่ะค่ะ  เข้่าไปเช็คที่เวบของมหาวิทยาลัย  เค้าเขียนว่า วีซ่าต้องเขียนว่่า Indefinite leave to remain  จึงจะใช้สิทธิ์ได้   In general 3 years residency with ILR, you will pay the Home Rate when you get your ILR. http://londonelegance.com/transpondia/flr/ As a spouse on FLR, can I enjoy the reduced rate for university tuition? No. Three years of residence are required before an individual may enjoy local rates. However, time spent in the UK on other categories, such as HSMP or work permits may be combined to accumulate the three years. http://www.ukcisa.org.uk/student/information_sheets.php#tuition_fees http://www.ukcisa.org.uk/student/info_sheets/tuition_fees_ewni.php CATEGORY 3: European Union (EU) nationals and their family members To be eligible under this category: (a) on the "first day of an academic year of your course" [see Box 2], you must be a national of an EU country [see Box 4] (see notes below); OR the 'relevant family member' [see Box 7] of a non-UK EU national who is in the UK as a self sufficient person or as a student; OR the 'relevant family member' [see Box 7] of a UK national; AND (b) you must have been ordinarily resident in the European Economic Area (EEA) [see Box 5] and/or Switzerland and/or the overseas territories [see Box 6] for the three years before the 'first day of the first academic year of the course' [see Box 2] AND (c) the main purpose of your residence in the EEA/Switzerland (or the overseas territories if applicable) must not have been to receive full-time education during any part of the three-year period. NOTES:    * if you become, or a 'relevant family member' [see Box 7] becomes, an EU national after the start of your course, you can become entitled to 'home' fees as from the start of the following academic year as long as you satisfy the residence conditions in (b) and (c) above on the first day of the first academic year of your course (see the next note too);    * for the purposes of the residence conditions, any country that joins the EU is considered always to have been part of the EEA. http://www.shef.ac.uk/ssid/fees/status.html (j) The student is ordinarily resident in the UK on the first day of the first academic year of the course, and has been granted leave to enter or remain in the UK on the first day of an academic year of the course, or is the spouse or civil partner of such a person, or is the child of such a person or that persons spouse or civil partner, and has been so since the time that person made their asylum application. Notes iii.  A person "settled" in the UK is one who is ordinarily resident in the UK and has no restrictions from the Home Office on their right to remain in the UK. Best wishes. แก้ไขเมื่อ 19 มี.ค. 52 13:45:40 แก้ไขเมื่อ 19 มี.ค. 52 13:37:27 จากคุณ : genf - [ 19 มี.ค. 52 13:24:07 ]

ความคิดเห็นที่ 13 ขอบพระคุณมากๆ ค่ะ คุณ genf เอาเป็นว่าของเรา  ต้องแต่งงานให้ครบสองปีและได้ วีซ่า ILR ก่อน  เข้าใจแล้วค่ะ เรื่องของเรื่องคือ อยากรู้ว่าจะประหยัดเงินค่าเทอมได้เมื่อไหร่น่ะค่ะ มันต่างกันมาก จริงๆ ขอบคุณอีกครั้งค่ะ จากคุณ : epsie - [ 19 มี.ค. 52 18:55:54 ]

ความคิดเห็นที่ 14 You are welcome. But,  don't despair yet. Please read on, I said in my early comment as 'In general.....'. However, there are always special provisions. http://www.ukcisa.org.uk/student/info_sheets/tuition_fees_ewni.php#provisions Special provisions for students on courses of further education (FE) and, in Northern Ireland, courses of higher education at an FE college. See 'Is my course higher education or further education?' for an explanation of what further education means. In addition to the categories, most institutions which provide FE courses (and in Northern Ireland FE colleges which also provide HE courses) will also charge home fees (or no fees at all) to some other categories of student on some courses. This will depend on your circumstances and on where in the UK you are (or will be) studying. Further Education (FE) courses in England, and FE and Higher Education (HE) courses at a College of Further Education in Northern Ireland If you are in one of the categories you must be charged home fees. In addition, if you are in one of the following groups you will be charged home fees by most institutions in England for FE courses funded by the Learning and Skills Council (LSC) and Colleges of Further Education in Northern Ireland for FE and HE courses funded by the Department of Education and Learning:     * people who have lived in England or Northern Ireland (as appropriate) for three years before the start of the course. (However, those who are in the UK with immigration permission as a student may not be eligible unless that permission is already long enough to cover the length of the planned study).     * asylum seekers who have been waiting for longer than six months for the Home Office to decide their asylum case; or who have been refused asylum but granted section 4 support because they are destitute and cannot yet leave the UK.     * people with 'recently settled' immigration status. To be included in this group, you must be someone who became 'settled' [see Box 1 for meaning of settled] in the UK within the three years immediately preceding the start of the course.     * people whose husband or wife or civil partner is 'settled' in the UK, [see Box 1 for meaning of settled] and who have been married or in a recognised civil partnership for at least one year, and resident in the UK for at least one year     * people who have been recognised as a refugee by the UK Government and the spouses, civil partners and children of such people (there is no age limit for children and there is no requirement that family members were part of the refugee's family on the date of the asylum application)     * people who have been granted Exceptional Leave to Enter or Remain in the UK or Humanitarian Protection or Discretionary Leave (whether or not it is as the result of an asylum application) and their spouse or civil partner and children (there is no age limit for children and there is no requirement that family members were part of the family on the date of the asylum application).     * In England only, 16-18 year olds who are either:          * accompanying parents who have Right of Abode in the UK or who have immigration permission to be in the UK, or who are coming to the UK as exchange scheme teachers, or who are diplomats; OR          * British citizens or have the Right of Abode in the UK; OR          * asylum seekers; OR          * in the care of social services            (you are a 16-18 year old if you are 16, 17 or 18 on 31 August of the year when you begin study. If you become 19 during the same study programme, you will still stay a home fee payer)     * In England only, people in 'exceptional circumstances'. (Talk to your institution if you do not meet any of the above categories but think your case is 'exceptional'). There you are, now you see that there is always a way out if you pick a right place to study. Best wishes. แก้ไขเมื่อ 19 มี.ค. 52 19:51:32 จากคุณ : genf - [ 19 มี.ค. 52 19:48:56 ]

ความคิดเห็นที่ 15 ขอบพระคุณอีกครั้งมากๆ ค่ะ  อ่านข้อมูลล่าสุดแล้วรู้สึกมีความหวังเล็กๆ ขึ้นมา ถ้ามีความคืบหน้าใดๆ จะแจ้งให้คุณ genf ทราบนะคะ ขอบคุณอย่างสูงค่ะที่สละเวลาตอบข้อสงสัยต่างๆ จากคุณ : epsie - [ 20 มี.ค. 52 08:48:57 ]

ความคิดเห็นที่ 16 It's a pleasure. Do let us know how it goes. Many congratulations on your upcoming marriage. All the best. จากคุณ : genf - [ 20 มี.ค. 52 13:31:09 ]

ความคิดเห็นที่ 17 (^_^) จากคุณ : epsie - [ 21 มี.ค. 52 10:04:36 ]

ความคิดเห็นที่ 18 คือสงสัยอ่ะค่ะ ไม่ได้อยู่ที่โน่น หรือมีแฟนที่โน่นหรอกนะคะ แล้วถ้าคนที่คือวีซ่านักเรียน อย่างเดียว หรือ มีวีซ่า พวก work permit จะมีสิทธิ์ได้ citizen มั้ยคะ เห็นบางคนไปอยู่โน่นก็ น้าน นาน ทำไมไม่ได้ citizen ซักกะที จากคุณ : annaphat - [ 21 มี.ค. 52 11:53:12 ]

ความคิดเห็นที่ 19 Up till now, it has always been possible to obtain a permanent residence and to become Naturalised as a British citizen. All that will be changed once the new Citizenship Bill comes into effect in a very near future (most likely to be in 2011). People in certain visa categories will never ever become a permanent resident. คนที่คือวีซ่านักเรียน จะมีสิทธิ์ได้ citizen มั้ยคะ     answer is  Yes. Providing all the standard and residential requirements can be met. A Student visa holder can become a permanent resident (PR) after 10 years of legal continuous stay in the UK. 10 years as student---> 1 year permanent resident--> citizen---total 11 years work permit holder จะมีสิทธิ์ได้ citizen -->permanent resident after 5 years--->PR for 1 year then citizen---total 6 years Combination of legal and illegal stay = 14 years*,  PR for 1 year  then citizen. * very complex. Follow links below if you are interested to learn about the issue; http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/policyandlaw/IDIs/idischapter18/ http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/policyandlaw/IDIs/idischapter18/longresidence/Long_Residence_IDI-_final_d1.pdf?view=Binary http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/aboutus/consultations/closedconsultations/pathtocitizenship/ http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/aboutus/consultations/closedconsultations/pathtocitizenship/pathtocitizenship?view=Binary Best wishes. แก้ไขเมื่อ 21 มี.ค. 52 20:15:48 แก้ไขเมื่อ 21 มี.ค. 52 20:08:00 จากคุณ : genf - [ 21 มี.ค. 52 20:07:14 ]

ความคิดเห็นที่ 20 โห ท่านพี่ ความรู้ด้านนี้แน่นจริงๆ ข้าน้อยขอคาราวะ _/\_ จากคุณ : epsie - [ 22 มี.ค. 52 08:07:47 ]