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genf, from your original post, you said:
"6. ศักดิ์ลืมไปว่าเขาโทรศัพท์มาหาฉันเมื่อวันเสาร์ที่แล้ว Sak forgot phoning me last Saturday. Sak forgot to phone me last Saturday
That meant that the guy DID NOT phone you at all."
Now, from your own sources, proof to the contrary: http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=337382
1: Luis Albornoz "Re: forgot to open / forgot opening forgot opening= he opened an account and then he forgot he had opened it. forgot to open:he had to open an account but he forgot to do it. "
2: Lillita "Re: forgot to open / forgot opening FORGET TO DO SG: You were supposed to do something but you didn't do it. For example, I am sorry mum, I forgot to buy bread. But I'll go and do the shopping now, OK? Oh my...! I forgot to lock the door. Anyone can go in!! I have to go home right now!! FORGET DOING SG: You did something but later you forget about the fact that you did it (and you do it again... unnecessarily). For example, (after having done the shopping, you open the kitchen cupboard to put in the newly bought 3 loaves of bread and you see that it is already full of bread) Holy cow! I forgot buying 5 loaves of bread yesterday. Today I bought 3 more, so now I have 8 loaves of bread! Jeez! The door is locked! I forgot locking it this morning. Now why on earth have I come home??? I could be in the cinema with the others... "
http://www.english-test.net/forum/ftopic10525.html Mister Micawber Language Coach "I forgot to close the door -- the door is still open; I failed to close it I forgot closing the door -- The door is closed. I closed it, but then I forgot that I did that. (Your first question is the common one. Your second question is rather unusual; it would require a special situation.)"
And even one quoted in your own response: "Now I know why it sounds strange to me! I say, "I don't remember feeding the cat."
I don't remember writing down his phone number. SO, BASICALLY IT MEANS THE SAME BUT IN DIFFERENT WORDS."
In addition, none of the evidence you have copied from the first link on English grammar either confirms your position, nor disproves ours.
You have confused the subject 'forget' + gerund with this topic, which is about 'forgot'
Your examples are both future tense uses of forgetting:
From your latest comment: Forget is frequently used with 'never' in the simple future form:
* I'll never forget meeting the Queen. * Don't forget to buy some eggs! (= Please think about it and then do it.)
For example Sak will never forget phoning me last Saturday - Sak phoned me and he will remember forever Sak, don't forget to phone me on Saturday - Sak must remember to call me on Saturday
We are talking 'past tense':
To recap: Sak phoned me last Saturday, but he forgot Sak forgot phoning me last Saturday
In fact, from your link and example:
http://www.edufind.com/english/grammar/ing6.cfm "When these verbs are followed by a gerund, the gerund refers to an action that happened earlier"
Forgot + gerund refers to an action that HAPPENED EARLIER.
Sounding wierd to you is not the same as being wrong. Even if I may say myself 'Sak doesn't remember phoning me last Saturday' it doesn't mean that I won't understand someone who said 'Sak forgot phoning me last Saturday' and doesn't make them wrong.
Regards Bibi's 'British' husband
PS Sincere apologies to the original poster, your topic has turned to mush :-o
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